what are your thoughts on introduced 'pest' species?

[rb85]

Interesting perspective did you ask him how they were fed prior to carp being introduced?

If I had to guess, by snacking on native fish that roamed wild and free. Without dams or changes in river paths ruining water q.

Would’ve been a mighty sight for sure.

It’s crazy how far they travel and spawn.
So much has changed now

So the food source disappeared with damming.

[Seniorfisho]

Why?

You have to catch one to understand why?

I wouldn’t mind catching one but not at the expense of our native fisheries.

If you ever get the chance to catch one, you'll forget all about our native fish. I've caught quite a few, as well as Peacock Bass, stripers, and a heap of Talapia, nothing we have comes close to those fish.

I’d be interested to compare but I think our natives should take precedence over introduced species.

There used to be tilapia in hazelwood poundage weren’t anything special to be honest.

They are when they are 2 or 3 kilo's

[smokin_reels]

Interesting perspective did you ask him how they were fed prior to carp being introduced?

If I had to guess, by snacking on native fish that roamed wild and free. Without dams or changes in river paths ruining water q.

Would’ve been a mighty sight for sure.

It’s crazy how far they travel and spawn.
So much has changed now

So the food source disappeared with damming.

Fairly certain a large bunch of native fish populations took a hit with changed environmental flows.
Probably need to get an actual scientist to comment on the impact.

Sure, we can turn the clock back to a pre carp era, but along with the carp came in other changes to the system too.

In an ideal world, none of this would have happened and the Murray would still be like it was in ancient times, but can’t change things now.

It’s not just the Murray, it’s the same story in a lot of rivers.

We can look for scape goats, but man is to be blamed in the end.

[smokin_reels]

https://humanrights.gov.au/sites/defaul ... study2.pdf

Really interesting read on the topic

[rb85]

Interesting perspective did you ask him how they were fed prior to carp being introduced?

If I had to guess, by snacking on native fish that roamed wild and free. Without dams or changes in river paths ruining water q.

Would’ve been a mighty sight for sure.

It’s crazy how far they travel and spawn.
So much has changed now

So the food source disappeared with damming.

Fairly certain a large bunch of native fish populations took a hit with changed environmental flows.
Probably need to get an actual scientist to comment on the impact.

Sure, we can turn the clock back to a pre carp era, but along with the carp came in other changes to the system too.

In an ideal world, none of this would have happened and the Murray would still be like it was in ancient times, but can’t change things now.

It’s not just the Murray, it’s the same story in a lot of rivers.

We can look for scape goats, but man is to be blamed in the end.

Agree a lot of waterways have suffered due to human alterations.

Eradicating carp won’t solve all these issues no doubt but reducing their population will reduce pressure on other fish species. Don’t think they are noxious pest for no reason.

[smokin_reels]

Yup for sure. Especially in what should be native dominated water ways.

Closed of clay puddles in housing estates, maybe not so much.

[ducky]

any one caught any fish near diets falls?

There's very few species of fish in Victoria that can't be caught in the yarra.

If you were to write a laundry list of species that people want to catch it can all be done between warrandyte and the mouth.

[ducky]

If only there were some sort of native species that could be stocked instead.

Agreed.
But they either can’t seem to breed enough of them ,
Or they just get picky about sticking then into certain pockets for biodiversity reasons.

Plus a lot of these stinky suburban holes are such poor water q , only the Ferals can survive

The poor water quality is from the carp stirring up the mud on the bottom. Get rid of the carp and more aquatic plants will grow and it’ll be more conducive to other fish species

Unsure about that.
Carp love weedy ponds and Lilly pads
They can survive in mud holes.
I reckon they just catch a bad rep for water q.


Albert park lakes got a pretty high carp density and crystal clear water.

I think it’s down to bio filtration, flow and poor oxygen.

Especially round the new estates, they just dig a hole and fill it lol

You walked the carp pools on the north eastern side of the lake? They are crawling with carp. So much so you can actively jag them in there... looks like a chocolate big m.

The lake itself is fairly clean mainly to do with the substrate.

[smokin_reels]

If only there were some sort of native species that could be stocked instead.

Agreed.
But they either can’t seem to breed enough of them ,
Or they just get picky about sticking then into certain pockets for biodiversity reasons.

Plus a lot of these stinky suburban holes are such poor water q , only the Ferals can survive

The poor water quality is from the carp stirring up the mud on the bottom. Get rid of the carp and more aquatic plants will grow and it’ll be more conducive to other fish species

Unsure about that.
Carp love weedy ponds and Lilly pads
They can survive in mud holes.
I reckon they just catch a bad rep for water q.


Albert park lakes got a pretty high carp density and crystal clear water.

I think it’s down to bio filtration, flow and poor oxygen.

Especially round the new estates, they just dig a hole and fill it lol

You walked the carp pools on the north eastern side of the lake? They are crawling with carp. So much so you can actively jag them in there... looks like a chocolate big m.

The lake itself is fairly clean mainly to do with the substrate.

Those carp pools are actually bio filtration thats been setup for in-flows coming into the lake.
Its mucky by design.

[ducky]

Well there you go. Interesting.

Here's a couple "lakes" near me. 2 with carp in them and one that as far as I can tell doesn't have them.

Massive colour difference. With the rhs one being near crystal clear