I need advice for Albert Park trout

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Re: I need advice for Albert Park trout

Post by April Fool » Mon Jul 01, 2019 12:53 pm

croe04 wrote:
Mon Jul 01, 2019 12:16 pm
Yeah catch and release on a handline with bait is difficult, but the fish aren't safe for consumption and if he eats them he'll probably get sick. Up to him though
What is the issue at the lake with the 'not safe for consumption' thing? They obviously have signs there?
cheers
Jim

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Re: I need advice for Albert Park trout

Post by Sinsemilla » Mon Jul 01, 2019 1:10 pm

April Fool wrote:
Mon Jul 01, 2019 12:53 pm
croe04 wrote:
Mon Jul 01, 2019 12:16 pm
Yeah catch and release on a handline with bait is difficult, but the fish aren't safe for consumption and if he eats them he'll probably get sick. Up to him though
What is the issue at the lake with the 'not safe for consumption' thing? They obviously have signs there?
cheers
Jim
There isn't signs Jim and you could eat them if you really wanted but it's a case of would you eat a fish that isn't expensive to buy from the market from a place where it gets all it's water from the storm water drains running off the dirty streets of the CBD?

Cheers, Anth

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Re: I need advice for Albert Park trout

Post by Bugatti » Mon Jul 01, 2019 2:04 pm

Sinsemilla wrote:
Mon Jul 01, 2019 1:10 pm
April Fool wrote:
Mon Jul 01, 2019 12:53 pm
croe04 wrote:
Mon Jul 01, 2019 12:16 pm
Yeah catch and release on a handline with bait is difficult, but the fish aren't safe for consumption and if he eats them he'll probably get sick. Up to him though
What is the issue at the lake with the 'not safe for consumption' thing? They obviously have signs there?
cheers
Jim
There isn't signs Jim and you could eat them if you really wanted but it's a case of would you eat a fish that isn't expensive to buy from the market from a place where it gets all it's water from the storm water drains running off the dirty streets of the CBD?

Cheers, Anth
We have the same situation here in SA. In Westlakes, even though it is "tidal", it only gets less than 1% of its volume replenished with the tide. And there are stormwater runoffs into the lake. There are signs not to eat the shellfish but not about fish. But with the "food chain", the fish in the lake eat the shellfish and weed , , , , so, the fish would have some of those toxins in them. You "can" eat the fish if you so choose BUT with the condition of the lake and water quality and ADD in the food chain effect, it is your choice AND your risk.

Our upper reaches of the Port River is the same.

If I fish in these areas, it's for fun and not food. Simply catch & release, for me. But each to their own. Plenty of people do eat out of these two waterways.

I choose to catch my own in the ocean or pay the extra and buy Australian Seafood.

Cheers, Bugz

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Re: I need advice for Albert Park trout

Post by croe04 » Mon Jul 01, 2019 2:08 pm

April Fool wrote:
Mon Jul 01, 2019 12:53 pm
croe04 wrote:
Mon Jul 01, 2019 12:16 pm
Yeah catch and release on a handline with bait is difficult, but the fish aren't safe for consumption and if he eats them he'll probably get sick. Up to him though
What is the issue at the lake with the 'not safe for consumption' thing? They obviously have signs there?
cheers
Jim
There aren't any signs for some reason, which is pretty silly seeing as its a family fishing lake and more likely than not kids catching fish are gonna want to take it home for dinner. Fish there are definitely not safe for consumption, parks victoria says that fish from the lake are not safe to consume, and research from the university of Melbourne has deemed that there are high levels of toxic sediment in albert park lake. Still, each to their own, eating fish from AP isn't prohibited and I'm sure people have done it, I'm just saying that if you were to its more than likely you'd get sick.
'Fish from Albert Park Lake are not considered suitable for consumption'
https://parkweb.vic.gov.au/explore/park ... lbert-park
"At Albert Park Lake, copper, lead, nickel and zinc have been found at levels deemed to be potentially toxic to aquatic life. Contamination from petrochemicals in the popular fishing and boating spot is double the level considered highly toxic."
https://www.theage.com.au/national/vict ... zobks.html

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Re: I need advice for Albert Park trout

Post by Jasonfish1234 » Mon Jul 01, 2019 8:19 pm

croe04 wrote:
Mon Jul 01, 2019 12:16 pm
Sinsemilla wrote:
Mon Jul 01, 2019 11:06 am
croe04 wrote:
Sun Jun 30, 2019 2:13 pm
I would advise against using bait for AP trout. All the people i've spoken to never caught anything using bait, and I haven't either. Using bait also increases the likelihood of you gut hooking the fish which will probably kill them because trout, especially young ones, are very delicate fish. Since you're handlining, most likely your only option is bait, you might get some of the little, freshly stocked hatchery trout on bait but after a while they'll stop hitting it as they get conditioned to food in the lake. As for rigs, put the smallest sinker you have on a running sinker rig with about 30-60cm leader with a small hook on the end (6-12 suicide). Use powerbait or worms. Hold your handline in your hand and wait for bites as trout take very subtly and you'll probably miss it unless you're holding it. Fish in AP aren't fit for human consumption so catch and release is a must. Please wet your hands and try to return the fish as quickly as you can to increase its survival chances and so that others can enjoy them too :thumbsup:

Consider getting a cheap rod and reel combo and using hardbodies because trout, yellas and EP in albert park lake love them and I always get smashed using lures. Good luck out there.

cheers

croe
If he is using a handline and bait I don't think he is catch and releasing..
Yeah catch and release on a handline with bait is difficult, but the fish aren't safe for consumption and if he eats them he'll probably get sick. Up to him though
Na, I'll release the fish.

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Re: I need advice for Albert Park trout

Post by Sinsemilla » Tue Jul 02, 2019 12:35 am

Bugatti wrote:
Mon Jul 01, 2019 2:04 pm
Sinsemilla wrote:
Mon Jul 01, 2019 1:10 pm
April Fool wrote:
Mon Jul 01, 2019 12:53 pm
croe04 wrote:
Mon Jul 01, 2019 12:16 pm
Yeah catch and release on a handline with bait is difficult, but the fish aren't safe for consumption and if he eats them he'll probably get sick. Up to him though
What is the issue at the lake with the 'not safe for consumption' thing? They obviously have signs there?
cheers
Jim
There isn't signs Jim and you could eat them if you really wanted but it's a case of would you eat a fish that isn't expensive to buy from the market from a place where it gets all it's water from the storm water drains running off the dirty streets of the CBD?

Cheers, Anth
We have the same situation here in SA. In Westlakes, even though it is "tidal", it only gets less than 1% of its volume replenished with the tide. And there are stormwater runoffs into the lake. There are signs not to eat the shellfish but not about fish. But with the "food chain", the fish in the lake eat the shellfish and weed , , , , so, the fish would have some of those toxins in them. You "can" eat the fish if you so choose BUT with the condition of the lake and water quality and ADD in the food chain effect, it is your choice AND your risk.

Our upper reaches of the Port River is the same.

If I fish in these areas, it's for fun and not food. Simply catch & release, for me. But each to their own. Plenty of people do eat out of these two waterways.

I choose to catch my own in the ocean or pay the extra and buy Australian Seafood.

Cheers, Bugz
Well said Bugz. I think these inner city lakes should be catch and release to give kids and people that can't get out far or on a boat a chance to catch some fish and have a bit of fun.

Cheers, Anth

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Re: I need advice for Albert Park trout

Post by smokin_reels » Fri Jul 12, 2019 6:56 pm

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Re: I need advice for Albert Park trout

Post by Texas » Fri Jul 12, 2019 7:02 pm

smokin_reels wrote:
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Penthouse pets ????

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Re: I need advice for Albert Park trout

Post by smokin_reels » Sat Jul 13, 2019 6:55 am

Texas wrote:
Fri Jul 12, 2019 7:02 pm
smokin_reels wrote:
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anything is possible in south melbourne.
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Re: I need advice for Albert Park trout

Post by ChrisTaylor » Sat Jul 13, 2019 3:44 pm

croe04 wrote:
Sun Jun 30, 2019 2:13 pm
I would advise against using bait for AP trout. All the people i've spoken to never caught anything using bait, and I haven't either. Using bait also increases the likelihood of you gut hooking the fish which will probably kill them because trout, especially young ones, are very delicate fish. Since you're handlining, most likely your only option is bait, you might get some of the little, freshly stocked hatchery trout on bait but after a while they'll stop hitting it as they get conditioned to food in the lake. As for rigs, put the smallest sinker you have on a running sinker rig with about 30-60cm leader with a small hook on the end (6-12 suicide). Use powerbait or worms. Hold your handline in your hand and wait for bites as trout take very subtly and you'll probably miss it unless you're holding it. Fish in AP aren't fit for human consumption so catch and release is a must. Please wet your hands and try to return the fish as quickly as you can to increase its survival chances and so that others can enjoy them too :thumbsup:

Consider getting a cheap rod and reel combo and using hardbodies because trout, yellas and EP in albert park lake love them and I always get smashed using lures. Good luck out there.

cheers

croe
To add to this, a point -- one not directly related to Albert Park, but about lure-fishing more generally. You need to pay attention to the casting weight of the rod. You may or may not be able to flick a few grams worth of lure (be it a lightly-weighted soft plastic or a hard body) very far, and the whole experience will be unenjoyable. If you find something that can cast lures, you might find yourself limited to lures in the ~5g range. You'd still be able to cast a 3g lure, but it won't go very far. Buying a rod suitable for lightweight lures will involve a bit more effort and expense than grabbing any old low-cost entry-level rod/reel combo.

EDIT

This is for the benefit of the OP, of course, but if you're very new at this keep an eye on sales, or possibly even look at second hand gear.

Oh, and given you're targeting trout, you'll want to use some fairly light gear. I'd use 3 or 4 pound leader.

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