The Bream Master Is Back!!!

[hornet]

Yeah noobies should sit on the side lines and get to know the long time members here before casting judgement, Purple does things by the book, reminds me back when a newbie was questioning a long time member here who specialises in distance casting about how he's doing it wrong ... LOL

[Broomstick]

No offence intended Steve. I just think people should be a little more informed when it comes to fish welfare. Keeping fish in live wells is detrimental to fish and unless it is complete necessary (i.e., in comps) I don't think people should do it. The experiments we carried out were in 40L and 80L eskies and in both, the fitness of fish reduced significantly over time. Unfortunately the vast majority of fishing practices are based on no scientific evidence. Another example that annoys me is release weights for fish with barotrauma. It's absolutely ludicrous to think that a fish with it's eyes popping out and stomach coming out of its mouth will swim off if you can get it back down to the bottom. So stupid.

Anyway, I understand that it wasn't your boat so it wasn't your choice. Again, I have nothing against keeping fish for a feed. I think this whole paradigm shift towards treating bream as some sort of golden species that must me protected at all costs is ridiculous, considering that they are just about the most common, widespread and adaptable species in Australia. But if you are going to release them, I think we should look after them.

Congrats on the fish. I can't wait to get down to East Gippy and chase some on the flats myself!

[mazman]

Nice work steve, no real need to add my thoughts on the livewell bussiness as pat has already covered it pretty well.
As for the latte vs long black my findings this morning were that no coffee also works and surface bream trumphs HB bream (seriously give it a proper go next chance you get)

you did all the right things in keeping them alive them releasing them and you didn't break any rules so I can't see the problem, cheers :a_goodjob:

Not 100% sure but I believe they did actually break a law by having 22 fish in the well at once, be super rough to get pinged for though. The point is more for the welfare of the fish intended for release, same sort of sentiment as quickly dispatching any fish destined for the table

[purple5ive]

Yeah noobies should sit on the side lines and get to know the long time members here before casting judgement, Purple does things by the book, reminds me back when a newbie was questioning a long time member here who specialises in distance casting about how he's doing it wrong ... LOL

hahah yes i do remeber that post. as for doing things by the book, ill never forget catching my first bream and it was undersized ofcourse, but i didnt know anything about size or bag limits and proceeded to put it in a bag, passerby mentioned to me to put it back because it was undersized which i did. went and looked up the law and educated myself..

[CarlG]

I'm betting it was a soy milk decaf skinny latte. And I bet you had pointy shoes on.
Nice effort on the bream mate, you can come and catch my livebaits anytime.
All the people with negative comments, exactly what rules were broken.?

[bowl]

Ur a monster purple.... :down:


...nice fish tho :thumbsup:

[purple5ive]

Nice work steve, no real need to add my thoughts on the livewell bussiness as pat has already covered it pretty well.
As for the latte vs long black my findings this morning were that no coffee also works and surface bream trumphs HB bream (seriously give it a proper go next chance you get)

you did all the right things in keeping them alive them releasing them and you didn't break any rules so I can't see the problem, cheers :a_goodjob:

Not 100% sure but I believe they did actually break a law by having 22 fish in the well at once, be super rough to get pinged for though. The point is more for the welfare of the fish intended for release, same sort of sentiment as quickly dispatching any fish destined for the table

yeah ill give the surface a go when i get the right conditions, wasnt suitable when i was fishing this time as it was too windy.
the last 2 fish were in the well for maybe 5 mins id say, but certainly could have got done for it, but we figured it would be fine.

[Mattblack]

I can handle you massacring bream by the thousands, drinking soy-lattes and your obsession with inferior fishing equipment....but you cross the line when you criticize alloy boats! :tongue:

[frozenpod]

Great catch, what was the water temp and clarity like?

bream dont generally care hahaha
but to answer your question, i honestly didnt check the temperature, i never do for bream. water clarity was rubbish, but bream generally dont give a rats ive found

I know :thumbsup:

[Kimtown]

hahahaha man this is worse than the sh*t fight i got into on facebook trolling some fool on alloy boats.
had to log into a pc after seeing the replies so i can reply back properly
anyway ill try and reply to all in one go.

Some of those fish were taken home.
All fish are Legal
Theres no pics of perch cause they were sent home straight away after capture, not even pics, they werent that big anyway.
Its not my boat, so skippers rules apply (within reason ofcourse) he mentioned to me as soon as we were out that some will be going home for a feed.
Livewell is a barra Comp sized one im not sure how big though.
Remind me again why i stopped posting reports on here??
Haters and jellies can get F@k#d,
im suprised no one asked about the latte, WTF??? :rofl:
and last but not least , i dont have to explain myself here but ill do that to keep the peace..
i was almost tempted to just leave it and watch the fun, but i cant do that hahaha

Nice work Steve. But, what's with all the fish on the deck? Keeping fish in live wells has annoyed me for a long time. If you are going to release a fish, release it straight away. You are only doing the fish more harm by keeping it in a live well. This belief that fish can recover in a live well is a total myth - it is well documented that keeping fish in a confined space can have a range of detrimental effects, eg: disrupted plasma electrolyte concentrations, increased glucose and lactate concentrations in the blood, disrupted plasma enzyme activity, altered plasma chemistry, etc - all of which reduce the fitness of the fish. I have actually helped run some of these experiments - we caught fish and took a range of different physiological measurements immediately after capture, then put them in enclosed, aerated containers for two hours while taking periodic physiological measurements. Over time, the health of the fish steadily deteriorated. I'll admit that bream are tough, but still, you aren't doing them any favours.

Pat i respect what your saying mate, as your the Informed about fish science not me, but it wasnt my boat, so had to play by the rules.
some of those fish didnt swim away because they are in a freezer.
now for the whole live well thing. i do a bit of occasional comps and need one to be legal.
also when they are on a hot bite like that, its easier to leave them in the well and take pics when its slowed down.
also how big were these aerated containers in the test labs?? im curious now hahaha
if the comps have a 60l livewell as a minimum, im sure they would be fine for use in he comp. they wouldnt do it otherwise because fish would be dead on arrival, whic means instant disqualification!!!

Disgraceful effort that. Bream are slow growing fish. Sorry but I don't rate your fishing at all.

is that so??? you clearly have nfi about myself, your new here so i suggest maybe do some research before assuming what people know or dont know and bagging people yeah.

Those fish are surely destined to be eaten - the boat is already on dry land in the photo.

so you can see a wee bit of sand in the pic so automatically assume its at home??
so it certainly 100% genuinely, absoluetly postively cannot be 50m from the ramp where the fish can be released safely right??

The negative feed back hasn't even touched on the fact he's over his bag/possession limit.
Livewells 60-80 litres are for bait or 4 bream in a tournament or use it how you like as long as your within your limits, unless his livewell is 300-400 litres.
Looks like a fisheries pic making an example of someone.
I think real bream fishos would be disgusted.

see top of post about livewell
the whole point of the pic was to show how many fish were caught, hence why theres 21 in the pic
the ones that looked worse for wear got taken home, the better conditioned fish went back
real bream fishos?? last time i checked there wasnt any they are all fake just like me :rofl:

Great catch!
How do we know they weren't put on ice asap in an eski and taken out for a quick photo at the end of the day?

learn to tell the difference between dead fish and live fish...


Thanks for the guys who have been positive, cheers lads..
even if i took my bag home its all still clearly Legal so im not so sure why all this negativity, but thats ok im still having fun here.
cheers

Fwiw when I said they might have bern put in an eski I was moreso hinting they were caught over multiple sessions, wasnt trying to imply you were over the limit, even though I hadn't actually counted anyway.