Trout, successful invasive species?

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Re: Trout, successful invasive species?

Post by Seniorfisho » Mon Aug 15, 2022 5:37 pm

Sebb wrote:
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Bullen Merri was stocked with Bass, and they're giant footballs. The depth and colder waters just make them harder to catch
Bullen Merri is a baron wasteland, no structure whatsoever. All the Bass hold in one area because it has a rocky outcrop.
I wouldn't say it's the best lake to stock Bass but if you get one, you certainly know about it
Sounds like a little structure would go a long way, maybe a few decent tree branches and logs.
I've been saying that for years. It's just a volcanic crater, trout seem to thrive in there and so do Bass but they really need to put some snags in there
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When it warms up a bit we should go for a Bass session there. I know where they are

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Re: Trout, successful invasive species?

Post by fisho999 » Mon Aug 15, 2022 7:37 pm

is it just me or do those bunnings snags hit different?

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Re: Trout, successful invasive species?

Post by Sebb » Mon Aug 15, 2022 8:02 pm

fisho999 wrote:
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is it just me or do those bunnings snags hit different?
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Re: Trout, successful invasive species?

Post by Longbombs » Tue Aug 16, 2022 5:02 pm

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Be great if they stocked some peacock bass, barra, snakeheads or arowana in those crater lakes if the water suited them.
No chance of escaping from there either.
Probably too cold for them. Be great though wouldn't it.
Hazelwood was promising til they shut the power plant down.
Lol the barra died because they ran out of food. Overstocked and they ate all of the cichlids.

The water stayed warm for a whole as Hazelwood was still running to some extent.

They would've died by now because of the colder water but that wasn't the main issue.

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Re: Trout, successful invasive species?

Post by cobby » Wed Aug 17, 2022 9:48 pm

Seniorfisho wrote:
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Prior to salmonid and redfin, (and carp), some lakes can have other natives like cod, yellas, and bass.
But what would lakes like purumbette be like? Just galaxias and that's it?
Bullen Merri was stocked with Bass, and they're giant footballs. The depth and colder waters just make them harder to catch
Bullen Merri is a baron wasteland, no structure whatsoever. All the Bass hold in one area because it has a rocky outcrop.
I wouldn't say it's the best lake to stock Bass but if you get one, you certainly know about it
That's the case with most lakes that aren't formed by damming rivers and creeks in a densely vegetated area. I'd rather throw the kitchen sink at a Bass in a wasteland and donut than get 100 Salmonids of any size in a stupid bite.

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Re: Trout, successful invasive species?

Post by ducky » Fri Aug 19, 2022 3:51 pm

Trout fan bois are worse than bream fan bois. Change my mind.

Trout bring lots of $$ to regional areas that otherwise wouldn't provide much in the way of fishing. But closed seasons is stupid imo. We can and do stock them in the millions. Don't get why you need to protect a wild fishery of an imported species when you can supplement stock each year and keep those $$ coming into those areas for a few extra months a year

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Re: Trout, successful invasive species?

Post by Andrews » Fri Aug 19, 2022 5:38 pm

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Trout fan bois are worse than bream fan bois. Change my mind.

Trout bring lots of $$ to regional areas that otherwise wouldn't provide much in the way of fishing. But closed seasons is stupid imo. We can and do stock them in the millions. Don't get why you need to protect a wild fishery of an imported species when you can supplement stock each year and keep those $$ coming into those areas for a few extra months a year
Yeah, trout fisheries really do help support regional areas.
I think it's an interesting one, the whole idea of a closed season for an invasive species is pretty strange, but if it helps support and maintain the wild fisheries, we should continue the practice. Stocking trout is awesome, but it costs money and required human intervention - if we can achieve similar results with a less proactive and invasive approach, we should do it! Maybe we could achieve the same results without closed season, but I'm happy with whatever protects the wild population.
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Re: Trout, successful invasive species?

Post by Seniorfisho » Fri Aug 19, 2022 7:22 pm

ducky wrote:
Fri Aug 19, 2022 3:51 pm
Trout fan bois are worse than bream fan bois. Change my mind.

Trout bring lots of $$ to regional areas that otherwise wouldn't provide much in the way of fishing. But closed seasons is stupid imo. We can and do stock them in the millions. Don't get why you need to protect a wild fishery of an imported species when you can supplement stock each year and keep those $$ coming into those areas for a few extra months a year
I don't think there is anything wrong with people targeting bream and trout. Fishing comes in a lot of different forms these days. Why call people fan boys just because they chose to do a different form of fishing to you?

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Post by rb85 » Fri Aug 19, 2022 9:12 pm

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Trout fan bois are worse than bream fan bois. Change my mind.

Trout bring lots of $$ to regional areas that otherwise wouldn't provide much in the way of fishing. But closed seasons is stupid imo. We can and do stock them in the millions. Don't get why you need to protect a wild fishery of an imported species when you can supplement stock each year and keep those $$ coming into those areas for a few extra months a year
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Re: Trout, successful invasive species?

Post by ducky » Wed Aug 24, 2022 4:25 pm

Seniorfisho wrote:
Fri Aug 19, 2022 7:22 pm
ducky wrote:
Fri Aug 19, 2022 3:51 pm
Trout fan bois are worse than bream fan bois. Change my mind.

Trout bring lots of $$ to regional areas that otherwise wouldn't provide much in the way of fishing. But closed seasons is stupid imo. We can and do stock them in the millions. Don't get why you need to protect a wild fishery of an imported species when you can supplement stock each year and keep those $$ coming into those areas for a few extra months a year
I don't think there is anything wrong with people targeting bream and trout. Fishing comes in a lot of different forms these days. Why call people fan boys just because they chose to do a different form of fishing to you?
I fish for trout, and to a lesser extent for bream. I don't consider myself a fan boi though.

Have a read of the crazy trout hunters Facebook page. Some good examples of fan bois there.

There's a huge sector of the hardcore trout fishing fraternity that are trying to demand catch and release only in huge sections of vic and nsw trout rivers for their own selfish needs.

It's kind of like people lobbying for further protections of bream. You know, the fish that is in huge numbers in every single estuary south of Queensland and around to wa in one species or another. Like when they banned netting in gippy lakes and peanut fan bois also demanded and received a slot limit on bream for essentially their own selfish needs. I've got nothing against the average bream hunter either for the record.

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