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Bream/bait

Post by jayonekinger » Mon Oct 21, 2024 9:02 pm

Hello! I have been fishing an estuary a lot recently, very tidal relatively big/wide creek. I've been mainly fishing for bream on prawns and been catching 3/4 basically every night, some pretty big ones too. Around April I decided to go and use some pillies to see what else I could catch, hooked something huge on 2000 size reel and 6 pound fluro, huge fight. Ended up getting the beast to the bank and my mate saw what he reckons was a big silver skinny body, he estimated around 80cm. No Idea what it was, may have been a jewie? not sure what else it could have been. Around 1km from the creek entrance to the ocean. Lots of other fish as well, mullet, eps, bream, caught a flattie once too. Any thoughts on what the fish was and how I should attempt to target whatever it was? Have basically only used surface lures as its very very weedy and practically impossible to use sub surface lures.

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Re: Bream/bait

Post by fishnut » Mon Oct 21, 2024 9:23 pm

Sounds like a mulloway

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Re: Bream/bait

Post by jayonekinger » Mon Oct 21, 2024 10:18 pm

fishnut wrote:
Mon Oct 21, 2024 9:23 pm
Sounds like a mulloway
On half a pilly? never heard of that before :wt:

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Re: Bream/bait

Post by Sebb » Tue Oct 22, 2024 6:18 am

I've seen a guy caught a muloway on half pilly in the yarra system, so its possible.
Otherwise, there's other species that are silver and long. Like couta, or maybe pike. Need more details.
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Re: Bream/bait

Post by jayonekinger » Tue Oct 22, 2024 8:25 pm

Sebb wrote:
Tue Oct 22, 2024 6:18 am
I've seen a guy caught a muloway on half pilly in the yarra system, so its possible.
Otherwise, there's other species that are silver and long. Like couta, or maybe pike. Need more details.
It was about 8 oclock pitch black, one huge run about a 10 minute fight, I was thinking maybe a huge tailor? I never saw the fish, my mate saw it and said it was long silver and about 80cm

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Re: Bream/bait

Post by Sebb » Wed Oct 23, 2024 8:07 am

jayonekinger wrote:
Tue Oct 22, 2024 8:25 pm
Sebb wrote:
Tue Oct 22, 2024 6:18 am
I've seen a guy caught a muloway on half pilly in the yarra system, so its possible.
Otherwise, there's other species that are silver and long. Like couta, or maybe pike. Need more details.
It was about 8 oclock pitch black, one huge run about a 10 minute fight, I was thinking maybe a huge tailor? I never saw the fish, my mate saw it and said it was long silver and about 80cm
Muloway has a distinct fight. Usually they swim away from you/rod, straight and fast. Then they turn. You feel like they drop the bait or hook came off, but no, they turn and swim towards you (opposite direction of the first run), and usually to structures.
And not much headshake.

Tailor will shake and jump, more acrobatic.
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Re: Bream/bait

Post by jayonekinger » Wed Oct 23, 2024 9:14 pm

Sebb wrote:
Wed Oct 23, 2024 8:07 am
jayonekinger wrote:
Tue Oct 22, 2024 8:25 pm
Sebb wrote:
Tue Oct 22, 2024 6:18 am
I've seen a guy caught a muloway on half pilly in the yarra system, so its possible.
Otherwise, there's other species that are silver and long. Like couta, or maybe pike. Need more details.
It was about 8 oclock pitch black, one huge run about a 10 minute fight, I was thinking maybe a huge tailor? I never saw the fish, my mate saw it and said it was long silver and about 80cm
Muloway has a distinct fight. Usually they swim away from you/rod, straight and fast. Then they turn. You feel like they drop the bait or hook came off, but no, they turn and swim towards you (opposite direction of the first run), and usually to structures.
And not much headshake.

Tailor will shake and jump, more acrobatic.
Mate! must have had a mulloway, almost identical to what you just described!! any idea on how I should target them knowing they are in the system? would livebaiting be worth it, thousands of decent sized mullet, 30-50 cm

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Re: Bream/bait

Post by Sebb » Thu Oct 24, 2024 7:04 am

jayonekinger wrote:
Wed Oct 23, 2024 9:14 pm
Sebb wrote:
Wed Oct 23, 2024 8:07 am
jayonekinger wrote:
Tue Oct 22, 2024 8:25 pm
Sebb wrote:
Tue Oct 22, 2024 6:18 am
I've seen a guy caught a muloway on half pilly in the yarra system, so its possible.
Otherwise, there's other species that are silver and long. Like couta, or maybe pike. Need more details.
It was about 8 oclock pitch black, one huge run about a 10 minute fight, I was thinking maybe a huge tailor? I never saw the fish, my mate saw it and said it was long silver and about 80cm
Muloway has a distinct fight. Usually they swim away from you/rod, straight and fast. Then they turn. You feel like they drop the bait or hook came off, but no, they turn and swim towards you (opposite direction of the first run), and usually to structures.
And not much headshake.

Tailor will shake and jump, more acrobatic.
Mate! must have had a mulloway, almost identical to what you just described!! any idea on how I should target them knowing they are in the system? would livebaiting be worth it, thousands of decent sized mullet, 30-50 cm
Yup, live baiting is the best to get them.
Start in the afternoon and catch some mullet, put in bucket with aerator.
Around sunset, set it up.
Depends on the system, i found it best when its slack tide during the night, that's when they bite.
But never know, they're funny creatures, not easy to catch. Hence the title ghost fish
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Re: Bream/bait

Post by jayonekinger » Thu Oct 24, 2024 5:27 pm

Sebb wrote:
Thu Oct 24, 2024 7:04 am
jayonekinger wrote:
Wed Oct 23, 2024 9:14 pm
Sebb wrote:
Wed Oct 23, 2024 8:07 am
jayonekinger wrote:
Tue Oct 22, 2024 8:25 pm
Sebb wrote:
Tue Oct 22, 2024 6:18 am
I've seen a guy caught a muloway on half pilly in the yarra system, so its possible.
Otherwise, there's other species that are silver and long. Like couta, or maybe pike. Need more details.
It was about 8 oclock pitch black, one huge run about a 10 minute fight, I was thinking maybe a huge tailor? I never saw the fish, my mate saw it and said it was long silver and about 80cm
Muloway has a distinct fight. Usually they swim away from you/rod, straight and fast. Then they turn. You feel like they drop the bait or hook came off, but no, they turn and swim towards you (opposite direction of the first run), and usually to structures.
And not much headshake.

Tailor will shake and jump, more acrobatic.
Mate! must have had a mulloway, almost identical to what you just described!! any idea on how I should target them knowing they are in the system? would livebaiting be worth it, thousands of decent sized mullet, 30-50 cm
Yup, live baiting is the best to get them.
Start in the afternoon and catch some mullet, put in bucket with aerator.
Around sunset, set it up.
Depends on the system, i found it best when its slack tide during the night, that's when they bite.
But never know, they're funny creatures, not easy to catch. Hence the title ghost fish
What's the best size? never livebaited before except slimys offshore. Thanks so much for all the help

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Re: Bream/bait

Post by Sebb » Fri Oct 25, 2024 10:55 am

jayonekinger wrote:
Thu Oct 24, 2024 5:27 pm
Sebb wrote:
Thu Oct 24, 2024 7:04 am
jayonekinger wrote:
Wed Oct 23, 2024 9:14 pm
Sebb wrote:
Wed Oct 23, 2024 8:07 am
jayonekinger wrote:
Tue Oct 22, 2024 8:25 pm


It was about 8 oclock pitch black, one huge run about a 10 minute fight, I was thinking maybe a huge tailor? I never saw the fish, my mate saw it and said it was long silver and about 80cm
Muloway has a distinct fight. Usually they swim away from you/rod, straight and fast. Then they turn. You feel like they drop the bait or hook came off, but no, they turn and swim towards you (opposite direction of the first run), and usually to structures.
And not much headshake.

Tailor will shake and jump, more acrobatic.
Mate! must have had a mulloway, almost identical to what you just described!! any idea on how I should target them knowing they are in the system? would livebaiting be worth it, thousands of decent sized mullet, 30-50 cm
Yup, live baiting is the best to get them.
Start in the afternoon and catch some mullet, put in bucket with aerator.
Around sunset, set it up.
Depends on the system, i found it best when its slack tide during the night, that's when they bite.
But never know, they're funny creatures, not easy to catch. Hence the title ghost fish
What's the best size? never livebaited before except slimys offshore. Thanks so much for all the help
If you're chasing a big one, then use a big mullet. Make it worth it for them to "hunt". But i used the ones less than 30cm.
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