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Re: Paternoster rigging variations
Posted: Mon Oct 21, 2019 1:06 am
by denis barden
Redhunter wrote: ↑Sun Oct 20, 2019 8:29 pm
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This is what I use at St Leonards for all FUSH
Main line 8lb Mono
Hook leader 2000mm long and Sinker loop 200 mm long 20 lb line
3 way swivel
No1 or 1oz sinker 92608 Mustad No4 SS long Shank Hook
A 2m leader is quite long mate. Fair enough to use such a long leader when fushing strong current areas such as WP, but the current at St Leonards isn't all that strong, and I would have thought such a long leader would make it harder to sense bites from whiting. You catch far too many fush not to know what you're doing my friend....What's the reasoning behind such a long leader? It obviously works well for you.
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I was told many years ago the closer to Queenscliff you go the longer the leader and the heavier sinkers as the tide is heaps quicker
I tried shorter leaders and you dont get the amounts of bits on them.
I see and feel most bites using a long leader -Only drawback is when lifting FUSH into boat its awkward with a long leader and a whippy 8ft 6in rod.
Never had a problem with the 3 way swivel knots as I check/jerk all knots after each fishing trip and redo as required
Since mid Dec 2018 ive caught over 1100 Ting with the long leaders
Cheers Denis
Re: Paternoster rigging variations
Posted: Mon Oct 21, 2019 3:41 am
by smile0784
I mainly use dropper loops for all my paganosta rigs
Re: Paternoster rigging variations
Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2019 6:10 am
by skronkman
I use cheap hobby tubing from $2 shop on my whiting paternoster rigs for the sinker dropper. About 150-200mm for the sinker dropper and 400mm for the hook. The tubing helps prevent the 2 from twisting together. I stole the idea from a pre made rig I saw once and it works well.
Twisted loop droppers work well on deep dropping paternoster rigs. Can take a bit of practice to get them tied consistently.
Re: Paternoster rigging variations
Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2019 8:54 am
by Kimtown
If I'm reading your first question properly:
A snelled hook to the mainline would stop the bait spinning but may effect hook up rate and bite off chance. I know of people who only fish like this however and it is effective. Especially on the surf.
Re: Paternoster rigging variations
Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2019 10:24 am
by Jasonfish1234
Kimtown wrote: ↑Wed Oct 23, 2019 8:54 am
If I'm reading your first question properly:
A snelled hook to the mainline would stop the bait spinning but may effect hook up rate and bite off chance. I know of people who only fish like this however and it is effective. Especially on the surf.
snelled hook is very effective on circle
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cTXSl84uruI&t=319s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFMcEFwwZxQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uv9okQbd0YA
Re: Paternoster rigging variations
Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2019 10:37 am
by Kimtown
Yeah but snelled to the leader with a sinker below
So basically an in-line snelled paternosta
Re: Paternoster rigging variations
Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2019 10:41 am
by Jasonfish1234
Kimtown wrote: ↑Wed Oct 23, 2019 10:37 am
Yeah but snelled to the leader with a sinker below
So basically an in-line snelled paternosta
I been thinking about do that to inprove hook rate for circle hook, there is other way.
Re: Paternoster rigging variations
Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2019 10:47 am
by Kimtown
Jasonfish1234 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 23, 2019 10:41 am
Kimtown wrote: ↑Wed Oct 23, 2019 10:37 am
Yeah but snelled to the leader with a sinker below
So basically an in-line snelled paternosta
I been thinking about do that to inprove hook rate for circle hook, there is other way.
If anything it would decrease hook up rates IMO. The advantages of it are it wouldn't spin in current.
Re: Paternoster rigging variations
Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2019 12:29 pm
by Trumpeter
Twisted dropper rig I use for kgw, it doesn't tangle easily and pretty deadly with a KL hook. Only problem are Puffers and lj's chewing on the line destroys the whole lot so I tie up 6-7 rigs as spares for each trip.
Re: Paternoster rigging variations
Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2019 6:39 pm
by smile0784
Trumpeter wrote: ↑Wed Oct 23, 2019 12:29 pm
Twisted dropper rig I use for kgw, it doesn't tangle easily and pretty deadly with a KL hook. Only problem are Puffers and lj's chewing on the line destroys the whole lot so I tie up 6-7 rigs as spares for each trip.
Why put snap at the sinker??
Why not just put a loop there and loop on your sinker