Soft Plastics Newbie

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Re: Soft Plastics Newbie

Post by skronkman » Sun Nov 24, 2019 9:11 am

A lighter rod and reel setup is ideal, as is braid but don’t let it stop you having a crack with what you have. The most important thing is to ensure that your plastic gets to the bottom, and ideally doing it as light weight as possible. Not as easy as it sounds and will take a bit of switching around jig heads depending on conditions like wind, tide, depth. Any curl tail grub around 2-3 inches is a good start. Big fish will still take a small artificial and you will catch more fish in total with small plastics.

Here are my recommendations but not the rules:
Reel: decent quality 2500 as they get a lot more use than when bait fishing but Sienna will do to start if you look after it by cleaning after use.
Rod: light and stiff, 6.5 - 7.5 foot depending on how light the jig heads. Look for casting weight as low as you can get on a shorter rod for under 1/4oz. A longer rod with cast weight from 10gm-20gm for the bigger jig heads bigger.
Line: I like 8-10lb braid with 6-15lb leader depending on the target. Flatties I go heavier, bream I go lighter.
Plastics: zman and the shimano bio thingies seem the best quality for the price to me.
Jig heads: I don’t have a preferred brand. Just a pile of them in different sizes and weights that I play with till I like the feel for the plastic in the conditions. I don’t like using Gulp as they dry out but I’ve had success using them

I actually run 2 setups for fishing plastics. A light 6’ rod with cast weight 1-7gm and a 1500 cx5 reel with 8lb braid and 6lb leader for Bream, bass, ep. Also a heavier setup for flatties and bigger stuff with 7’ rod, 2500 stradic, 10lb braid, 12lb leader.



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Re: Soft Plastics Newbie

Post by colnick » Sun Nov 24, 2019 3:18 pm

I'd endorse skronkman's suggestions. I use plastics almost exclusively for dusky flathead in shallow water in NSW. I have a relatively stiff rod and a light baitcaster reel spooled with 9 lb mono. I went back to mono a few years ago because I find it cheaper, easier to rig and manage and I catch just as many fish as I did with braid. Casting distance, spool capacity and line stretch are not an issue in my kind of fishing.
Like skronkman, I have a variety of jig heads and plastics but my own favourite is a Squidgie Fish around 75mm in a sparkly colour they used to call Gary Glitter. I have caught hundreds of duskies on this plastic and also picked up the odd bream together with a single big sand whiting.
My experience may not be relevant for your type of fishing but I throw it in for what its worth.
Good luck!
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Re: Soft Plastics Newbie

Post by Leronzia » Sun Nov 24, 2019 7:47 pm

so if i use 10lb braid on a 6'6 sahara x is that fine,

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Post by Leronzia » Sun Nov 24, 2019 7:47 pm

Leronzia wrote:
Sun Nov 24, 2019 7:47 pm
so if i use 10lb braid on a 6'6 sahara x is that fine, thats my other setup 3-5kg

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Re: Soft Plastics Newbie

Post by Leronzia » Sun Nov 24, 2019 7:49 pm

and then another question are all of your suggesting smaller setup for casting distance or just general.

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Re: Soft Plastics Newbie

Post by skronkman » Sun Nov 24, 2019 9:30 pm

I’m not familiar with that specific rod but it sounds about right (as long as it’s light and fairly fast action) and 10lb braid is fine. Should match with a 2500 reel. If you use some 8-12lb mono leader and a 1/4oz plus (as light as the conditions will allow but still able to get a reasonable cast in) jig head with a 2.5” grub you should be in the market for flatties. Flatties aren’t too picky about a heavier jig head and it will be easier to cast a decent distance on less than ideal setup and get to the bottom.

The length of rod is more a personal preference but comes into play with designed cast weight. Fishing light jig heads you need to be able to cast them and that’s why I have a super light rod and reel. I feel it’s more sensitive too, being shorter.



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Re: Soft Plastics Newbie

Post by Leronzia » Mon Nov 25, 2019 1:55 pm

skronkman wrote:
Sun Nov 24, 2019 9:30 pm
I’m not familiar with that specific rod but it sounds about right (as long as it’s light and fairly fast action) and 10lb braid is fine. Should match with a 2500 reel. If you use some 8-12lb mono leader and a 1/4oz plus (as light as the conditions will allow but still able to get a reasonable cast in) jig head with a 2.5” grub you should be in the market for flatties. Flatties aren’t too picky about a heavier jig head and it will be easier to cast a decent distance on less than ideal setup and get to the bottom.

The length of rod is more a personal preference but comes into play with designed cast weight. Fishing light jig heads you need to be able to cast them and that’s why I have a super light rod and reel. I feel it’s more sensitive too, being shorter.
Thanks mate, i tried a bit saturday morning, nothing moved to bait and reeled in some pinkies. whats your retrieve style, i used a zman curly tail 3.5 inch and doubble hop retrieve, you think smaller plastic?

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Re: Soft Plastics Newbie

Post by wem21 » Mon Nov 25, 2019 2:51 pm

Leronzia wrote:
Mon Nov 25, 2019 1:55 pm
skronkman wrote:
Sun Nov 24, 2019 9:30 pm
I’m not familiar with that specific rod but it sounds about right (as long as it’s light and fairly fast action) and 10lb braid is fine. Should match with a 2500 reel. If you use some 8-12lb mono leader and a 1/4oz plus (as light as the conditions will allow but still able to get a reasonable cast in) jig head with a 2.5” grub you should be in the market for flatties. Flatties aren’t too picky about a heavier jig head and it will be easier to cast a decent distance on less than ideal setup and get to the bottom.

The length of rod is more a personal preference but comes into play with designed cast weight. Fishing light jig heads you need to be able to cast them and that’s why I have a super light rod and reel. I feel it’s more sensitive too, being shorter.
Thanks mate, i tried a bit saturday morning, nothing moved to bait and reeled in some pinkies. whats your retrieve style, i used a zman curly tail 3.5 inch and doubble hop retrieve, you think smaller plastic?
Do your best to match what you see swimming around on the day

e.g sunday morning i was wading beaches for flatties and noticed that there were tons of small baitfish, so i used zman slim swimz 2.5inch.

If i had seen anything smaller than a small baitfish I would've use grubs, but anything around the 2-3 inch baitfish size I would use minnow imitation lures

for bream though, the smaller the lure the better, I would just stick to 2inch grubs for bream

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Re: Soft Plastics Newbie

Post by skronkman » Tue Nov 26, 2019 3:52 am

3.5” is prolly on the larger side. Try smaller and you should tempt more fish. I vary my retrieve depending on what is or isn’t working in the day. Often bigger pauses and slower retrieves works when they aren’t firing up. Even slow role can sometimes be the most productive on the day.

Water is taking its time to warm up this year so fishing artificials should only improve through summer. Keep at it, once you catch one you’ll have the feel for it and the confidence that it works. Then your second fish will come quickly. confidence catches fish.

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