Rod or reel?

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Re: Rod or reel?

Post by mazman » Mon Oct 22, 2018 10:01 am

purple5ive wrote:I agree to a certain extent..
But the sienna will never have the same smooth drag that the luvias has, will never have micro drag adjustment, will never have the same retrieve ratio and will never have the same balance..
Big difference for me… might not be the case for others.. hence why this whole who needs expensive gear argument comes into play.

was just on the squid this weekend, and i can tell you straight away a proper squid combo sh*ts all over a elcheapo sienna/sonic combo. they both caught the squid though. but chalk and cheese to use even my rookie cousin had his eyes peeled open with the difference in the way Both outfits fish.
This doesnt apply to small squid though..
He's not disagreeing with your second point about cheap vs expensive but pointing out a large part of the difference between the combos is from the rod. There are differences in reels but if on a tight budget those little advantages you get for putting an extra hundred or two into the reel aren't as big as the difference in putting an extra hundred or two in the rod. I wouldn't go as far as a battler/sienna combo but an atomic arrow matched up with a nasci would imo be a much better combo than a catana matched to a stradic even though both will set you back about the same amount of money.
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Re: Rod or reel?

Post by Scraglor » Mon Oct 22, 2018 6:31 pm

Sinsemilla wrote:
purple5ive wrote:For lure fishing Both are equally important to me.. and so is the line I use.. what type of lure I use determines what type of rod I will pick and a reel to match..

Bait I really dont care anything will do me.
That's because you like to use a nice reel on a nice rod because that's what you prefer. Really though if you put a sienna on the rod you use for bream with the same braid.. It won't make much of a difference to your fishing. The reel just won't feel as nice.
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Re: Rod or reel?

Post by Sinsemilla » Mon Oct 22, 2018 7:06 pm

mazman wrote:
purple5ive wrote:I agree to a certain extent..
But the sienna will never have the same smooth drag that the luvias has, will never have micro drag adjustment, will never have the same retrieve ratio and will never have the same balance..
Big difference for me… might not be the case for others.. hence why this whole who needs expensive gear argument comes into play.

was just on the squid this weekend, and i can tell you straight away a proper squid combo sh*ts all over a elcheapo sienna/sonic combo. they both caught the squid though. but chalk and cheese to use even my rookie cousin had his eyes peeled open with the difference in the way Both outfits fish.
This doesnt apply to small squid though..
He's not disagreeing with your second point about cheap vs expensive but pointing out a large part of the difference between the combos is from the rod. There are differences in reels but if on a tight budget those little advantages you get for putting an extra hundred or two into the reel aren't as big as the difference in putting an extra hundred or two in the rod. I wouldn't go as far as a battler/sienna combo but an atomic arrow matched up with a nasci would imo be a much better combo than a catana matched to a stradic even though both will set you back about the same amount of money.
Spot on Alex.

Steve I understand about micro drag adjustments and really smooth drag etc. I also like nice gear but its more of a luxury than a necessity i think.

You can catch big squid with a hand line perfectly fine.. and if you want to use topnotch specialist squid gear thats perfectly fine too.

Cheers, Anth

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Re: Rod or reel?

Post by CarlG » Mon Oct 22, 2018 7:10 pm

Scraglor wrote:
Sinsemilla wrote:
purple5ive wrote:For lure fishing Both are equally important to me.. and so is the line I use.. what type of lure I use determines what type of rod I will pick and a reel to match..

Bait I really dont care anything will do me.
That's because you like to use a nice reel on a nice rod because that's what you prefer. Really though if you put a sienna on the rod you use for bream with the same braid.. It won't make much of a difference to your fishing. The reel just won't feel as nice.
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Re: Rod or reel?

Post by Cornacarpio » Mon Oct 22, 2018 7:14 pm

I would rather a 'good' reel with a 'poor' rod, rather than other way around, especially for bigger fish that may pull some drag. There's nothing worse that a poorly engineered reel that jams, has a jerky drag and bird nests every time!

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Re: Rod or reel?

Post by Sinsemilla » Mon Oct 22, 2018 7:33 pm

CarlG wrote:
Scraglor wrote:
Sinsemilla wrote:
purple5ive wrote:For lure fishing Both are equally important to me.. and so is the line I use.. what type of lure I use determines what type of rod I will pick and a reel to match..

Bait I really dont care anything will do me.
That's because you like to use a nice reel on a nice rod because that's what you prefer. Really though if you put a sienna on the rod you use for bream with the same braid.. It won't make much of a difference to your fishing. The reel just won't feel as nice.
The real question is where to buy the latte from
Finally, somebody asking the really important questions.!
I've heard those places with the milk crates as chairs have the best lattes. They make them in an avocado skin as well if you like. and no need to ask.. of course they will make you catch bigger bream. ;)

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Re: Rod or reel?

Post by purple5ive » Mon Oct 22, 2018 7:44 pm

Sinsemilla wrote:
mazman wrote:
purple5ive wrote:I agree to a certain extent..
But the sienna will never have the same smooth drag that the luvias has, will never have micro drag adjustment, will never have the same retrieve ratio and will never have the same balance..
Big difference for me… might not be the case for others.. hence why this whole who needs expensive gear argument comes into play.

was just on the squid this weekend, and i can tell you straight away a proper squid combo sh*ts all over a elcheapo sienna/sonic combo. they both caught the squid though. but chalk and cheese to use even my rookie cousin had his eyes peeled open with the difference in the way Both outfits fish.
This doesnt apply to small squid though..
He's not disagreeing with your second point about cheap vs expensive but pointing out a large part of the difference between the combos is from the rod. There are differences in reels but if on a tight budget those little advantages you get for putting an extra hundred or two into the reel aren't as big as the difference in putting an extra hundred or two in the rod. I wouldn't go as far as a battler/sienna combo but an atomic arrow matched up with a nasci would imo be a much better combo than a catana matched to a stradic even though both will set you back about the same amount of money.
Spot on Alex.

Steve I understand about micro drag adjustments and really smooth drag etc. I also like nice gear but its more of a luxury than a necessity i think.

You can catch big squid with a hand line perfectly fine.. and if you want to use topnotch specialist squid gear thats perfectly fine too.

Cheers, Anth

why not just ******* use a hand line on everything then ffs??? :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
why bother with even a shitty rod or reel cause it really is not necessary by the looks of it.
and while were at it, why bother with a boat?? can catch them landbased and people have been for decades..

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Re: Rod or reel?

Post by April Fool » Mon Oct 22, 2018 7:53 pm

So...since my return here I have noticed a name I haven't heard for a while...Luvias. They are not made any more are they? If so, what newer model has slotted into its place?
purple5ive wrote:........................................................................
why not just ******* use a hand line on everything then ffs??? .....................
Do Daiwa make a hand line? If so, is it fitted with magseal?
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Re: Rod or reel?

Post by purple5ive » Mon Oct 22, 2018 7:57 pm

April Fool wrote:So...since my return here I have noticed a name I haven't heard for a while...Luvias. They are not made any more are they? If so, what newer model has slotted into its place?
purple5ive wrote:........................................................................
why not just ******* use a hand line on everything then ffs??? .....................
Do Daiwa make a hand line? If so, is it fitted with magseal?
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ahaha yes they do actually they come with their own plastic line holder as well
luvias is still in production, new version out soon i was told

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Re: Rod or reel?

Post by April Fool » Mon Oct 22, 2018 8:01 pm

My bad! I had a quick look the other day...and didn't see it! I assume the new model Luvius will follow their 'LT' or whatever the f^%k they call it concept?
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