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Cheers - reckon I might service my caldia in that case. I had a feeling magseal was just a seal but wasn't sure given its an oil colloid. Reckon I can live without it. If waters is surrounding that area I've dunked the reel in which case magseal or no magseal it's a tear down. What oils and grease do you use - I'm thinking quantum hot sauce oil and grease and Daiwa 501 for the drag ... Although considering just using 501 across the board

sloth wrote:Cheers - reckon I might service my caldia in that case. I had a feeling magseal was just a seal but wasn't sure given its an oil colloid. Reckon I can live without it. If waters is surrounding that area I've dunked the reel in which case magseal or no magseal it's a tear down. What oils and grease do you use - I'm thinking quantum hot sauce oil and grease and Daiwa 501 for the drag ... Although considering just using 501 across the board

i do not recomend quantum unless gear has been damaged, you can use permalube from shimano or keep it oem with daiwa 104 depending on which you like better. for drag grease i prefer to use dg01 from shimano, if you do want daiwa grease please use the white daiwa 555 grease ultimate tournament drag. not the yellow liquidish one, they make your drag really jerky. I have not used grease 501 before but it seems to general, and i happen to have quite a bit of an ocd hahaha guess it's ok to use for gear but not for drag.

lastly use proper tool, treat the gear like your babies, don't drop it as daiwa dont sell gear as spare parts, at least not from japan.-- correct me if I'm wrong, haven't tried daiwa Australia.

Hi Guys,
I got some Teflon bike grease in a tube from Anaconda, I use it for all bearings and on carbontex washers in the drag, its very smooth. I have a 40 year old ABU Ambassador 6000, always had a lumpy drag, I tried everything and finally got it smooth with the Teflon grease & carbontex. Worked a treat on a few snapper last season. Always satisfying to catch them on equipment that you fix yourself.
Cheers from
Ango.

ango wrote:Hi Guys,
I got some Teflon bike grease in a tube from Anaconda, I use it for all bearings and on carbontex washers in the drag, its very smooth. I have a 40 year old ABU Ambassador 6000, always had a lumpy drag, I tried everything and finally got it smooth with the Teflon grease & carbontex. Worked a treat on a few snapper last season. Always satisfying to catch them on equipment that you fix yourself.
Cheers from
Ango.

Teflon grease do work well as a drag grease, many high end tackle develope grease with them. Although you can buy proper grease made for reel drag like cals and oem greases.

First of all, speaking as someone who if were to attempt dismantling reels...it would end in disaster, I do admire your work!

Booya wrote:...........................................................................................................................................................................................................
@sloth - magseal does not serve as lubrication at all, I think they will do more damage than protecting reel parts if it does leak to internal system hence the reason why i refrain from filling them with aftermarket product. Tbh if i could i would put a very thin rubber seal instead for protection, simple and easily maintained.

From the above comment and your comment (below), do you think the 'magseal' concept is not ideal? Or do you think the idea is fine, but just a pain to service as in it sounds like it has to go back to a Daiwa dealer to be serviced.

...here is the first insight of the so called magseal technology....

cheers
Jim

Rod Bender wrote:First of all, speaking as someone who if were to attempt dismantling reels...it would end in disaster, I do admire your work!

Booya wrote:...........................................................................................................................................................................................................
@sloth - magseal does not serve as lubrication at all, I think they will do more damage than protecting reel parts if it does leak to internal system hence the reason why i refrain from filling them with aftermarket product. Tbh if i could i would put a very thin rubber seal instead for protection, simple and easily maintained.

From the above comment and your comment (below), do you think the 'magseal' concept is not ideal? Or do you think the idea is fine, but just a pain to service as in it sounds like it has to go back to a Daiwa dealer to be serviced.

...here is the first insight of the so called magseal technology....

cheers
Jim

I think magseal do work, but i think it serves more as a marketing strategies rather than working on a better technology. The idea of them doing magseal is to decrease resistance on turn, which i cant see how a thin rubber with oil coat can increase the resistance to the point that it is noticeable comparable to magseal. Though i do not have the resource to test the rubber and magseal side to side on a same reel to see if I'm actually right.

This is an awesome thread!

Regarding your first post, does the Shimano Rarenium come with bearings in the line roller and the knob as standard? What is the turn around time for servicing? I'm not overly far from you and have a Daiwa Luvias 2004H. I added an RCS M-knob, bearings in the knob and spool and a carbon drag washer. It's seen alot of use but has been faultless

AE092 wrote:This is an awesome thread!

Regarding your first post, does the Shimano Rarenium come with bearings in the line roller and the knob as standard? What is the turn around time for servicing? I'm not overly far from you and have a Daiwa Luvias 2004H. I added an RCS M-knob, bearings in the knob and spool and a carbon drag washer. It's seen alot of use but has been faultless

Thanks, turn over time usually varies from 2days to a week depending on work load as i only do these as an afterwork hobbies. If parts need to be replaced it could take more time up to a month if ordered from japan. In regard of rarenium, yes it came with bearing on handle and line roller.

next up is daiwa freams - oil seal