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So who’s thinking there is going to be an extension to this lockdown?

4liters wrote: ↑

Sun May 30, 2021 9:14 pm

Well yeah, that's more or less what vaccines do

And provide a more than immeasurable rate of transmission prevention I.e. smallpox, poliomyelitis etc.
This doesn't, and by Pfizer admission, likely end up an annual shot not unlike the H1N1 shot where the virus STILL kills 3-5% of infections annually, just like H1N1..... Doesn't seem worth the fanfare does it?

Lightningx wrote: ↑

Mon May 31, 2021 2:35 pm

So who’s thinking there is going to be an extension to this lockdown?

By some miracle it'll be the 10th.... Likely the 10th of July

Lightningx wrote: ↑

Mon May 31, 2021 2:35 pm

So who’s thinking there is going to be an extension to this lockdown?

Until after school holidays at least (this one feels worse than #2 lockdown)

Lightningx wrote: ↑

Mon May 31, 2021 2:35 pm

So who’s thinking there is going to be an extension to this lockdown?

The actual number today is 11 and the exposure sites are insane.

There is no way we're getting out of this this week.

Just to rub salt in the wound, the weather is fantastic for another trip offshore from Lakes which I am champing at the bit to do after the success I had last time. I am over having to stay at home because some one hundreds of Km away has a virus. I have attached a couple of photos to remind me what I am missing out on. I think they need to offer everyone the opportunity to get immunized, then open everything up so life can get back to normal. If people decline the immunization then that is their problem and they will need to deal with it.

cobby wrote: ↑

Mon May 31, 2021 2:47 pm

4liters wrote: ↑

Sun May 30, 2021 9:14 pm

Well yeah, that's more or less what vaccines do

And provide a more than immeasurable rate of transmission prevention I.e. smallpox, poliomyelitis etc.
This doesn't, and by Pfizer admission, likely end up an annual shot not unlike the H1N1 shot where the virus STILL kills 3-5% of infections annually, just like H1N1..... Doesn't seem worth the fanfare does it?

2009 H1N1: "It is estimated that 0.001 percent to 0.007 percent of the world’s population died of respiratory complications associated with (H1N1)pdm09 virus infection during the first 12 months the virus circulated."

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/pandemic-resour ... demic.html

I have seen other numbers that suggested a death rate of 1 to 4% but they were far from credible.

frozenpod wrote: ↑

Mon May 31, 2021 3:27 pm

cobby wrote: ↑

Mon May 31, 2021 2:47 pm

4liters wrote: ↑

Sun May 30, 2021 9:14 pm

Well yeah, that's more or less what vaccines do

And provide a more than immeasurable rate of transmission prevention I.e. smallpox, poliomyelitis etc.
This doesn't, and by Pfizer admission, likely end up an annual shot not unlike the H1N1 shot where the virus STILL kills 3-5% of infections annually, just like H1N1..... Doesn't seem worth the fanfare does it?

2009 H1N1: "It is estimated that 0.001 percent to 0.007 percent of the world’s population died of respiratory complications associated with (H1N1)pdm09 virus infection during the first 12 months the virus circulated."

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/pandemic-resour ... demic.html

I have seen other numbers that suggested a death rate of 1 to 4% but they were far from credible.

Some more light reading for anyone interested in the difference (or lack there of) and efficacy of the two vaccines available in Australia.

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101 ... 21255913v1


In summary.

Results Odds of new SARS-CoV-2 infection were reduced 65% (95% CI 60 to 70%; P<0.001) in those ≥21 days since first vaccination with no second dose versus unvaccinated individuals without evidence of prior infection (RT-PCR or antibody). In those vaccinated, the largest reduction in odds was seen post second dose (70%, 95% CI 62 to 77%; P<0.001).There was no evidence that these benefits varied between Oxford-AstraZeneca and Pfizer-BioNTech vaccines (P>0.9).There was no evidence of a difference in odds of new SARS-CoV-2 infection for individuals having received two vaccine doses and with evidence of prior infection but not vaccinated (P=0.89). Vaccination had a greater impact on reducing SARS-CoV-2 infections with evidence of high viral shedding Ct<30 (88% reduction after two doses; 95% CI 80 to 93%; P<0.001) and with self-reported symptoms (90% reduction after two doses; 95% CI 82 to 94%; P<0.001); effects were similar for different gene positivity patterns.

Wow. 5 pages and no one has blamed Daniel Andrews for this outbreak yet!!!

I hope everyone has enough toilet paper supply, cause your going to need it...

purple5ive wrote: ↑

Mon May 31, 2021 6:48 pm

Wow. 5 pages and no one has blamed Daniel Andrews for this outbreak yet!!!

I hope everyone has enough toilet paper supply, cause your going to need it...

Thought u were done posting on here