2019 Melbourne Boat Show

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Re: 2019 Melbourne Boat Show

Post by 4liters » Thu Jun 20, 2019 6:57 pm

Bugatti wrote:
Mon Jun 17, 2019 12:40 am
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I wouldn't buy one regardless. Very poor boats IMO.

In what regard?
The ain't known as Flipperlutions for nothing.


Extract from marinebusiness.com



Victorian boat builder bought out of liquidation by previous owners.

Victorian boat builder Evolution Boats says it is “business as usual” after its parent company, PM Marine Manufacturing, was put into liquidation last week.

Owner Paul Junginger told Marine Business that prior to PM Marine Manufacturing, of which he was the main shareholder, being put into liquidation, Evolution Boats was sold to a new company, PM Composites, also under his control, which was registered with the Australian Securities & Investments Commission just two weeks earlier.

As a result, Junginger said Evolution Boats is now back in business under the new ownership at the same premises and with the same staff.




Is this for real , , , , well it is , , , , but , , , , what a



So let me get this straight , , , ,


Paul Junginger , , , , owned "Evolution Boats"

then

"PM Marine Manufacturing", which Paul Junginger effectively owns, buys "Evolution Boats" (which he owned anyway ????)

then

"PM Marine Manufacturing" goes into liquidation, which is the company that Paul effectively owns


BUT BUT

two weeks before "PM Marine Manufacturing" goes into liquidation, which is effectively Paul going bust

"PM Composites", who effectively is owned by Paul Junginger (with surprisingly similar "PM" names) buys "Evolution Boats" , , , , again, after buying it again and going bust



So , , , , a Company (Evolution Boats) that Paul owns, is then bought by Paul (himself) which then (Paul effectively) goes into liquidation and then "Evolution Boats" is bought by Paul (himself) again , , , , after going bust ????



AND they have the guts to say , , , , Evolution Boats is now back in business under the NEW OWNERSHIP , , , , and surprise surprise , , , , they also say , , , , at the same premises and with the same staff




I wonder how the unpaid creditors feel about all of that

Well Boats do catch fish , , , , so that may explain the Fishy Business
There's a provision in insolvency law that specifically prohibits transactions like that if a fair price isn't paid for the asset (in this case Evolution Boats). If he didn't pay the market price for the company the liquidator will be all over him like a rash.
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Re: 2019 Melbourne Boat Show

Post by cobby » Thu Jun 20, 2019 7:50 pm

rb85 wrote:
Thu Jun 20, 2019 4:34 pm
cobby wrote:
Thu Jun 20, 2019 9:50 am
rb85 wrote:
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https://www.boatsonline.com.au/boats-fo ... -ht/228341

https://www.boatsales.com.au/boats/deta ... 6082/?Cr=0

https://www.boatsales.com.au/boats/deta ... 6295/?Cr=1

https://www.boatsales.com.au/boats/deta ... 0804/?Cr=2

https://www.boatsales.com.au/boats/deta ... 0400/?Cr=3

Bee Humble the first on boatsales is an insane setup the others below need a side dive door I believe not essential but would help for game angling even though I believe be humbles should be on the skippers size. If you can sleep in the cab these are looking good.
They're nice boats, very well finished and bee humble is well decked out. But for me with $200k and a choice of seeing the Savage's at Streaker or elsewhere, the car would be full of fuel and I'd be driving to Cann River and getting Erick Hyland to build me a 263L
Cobby I know the manufacturers and their models to some extent not the builders. Do you have experience in the boat building industry?
Nope. Just tidbits learnt off others. Erick builds Whitepointer boats. The 263L is the old John Haines designed 243L extended with a few other tweaks and built like a brick shizenhousen. Erick also started Edencraft at Eden before selling that too
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Re: 2019 Melbourne Boat Show

Post by cobby » Thu Jun 20, 2019 7:56 pm

Or my new favourite 263 photo
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Re: 2019 Melbourne Boat Show

Post by rb85 » Thu Jun 20, 2019 7:57 pm

cobby wrote:
Thu Jun 20, 2019 7:50 pm
rb85 wrote:
Thu Jun 20, 2019 4:34 pm
cobby wrote:
Thu Jun 20, 2019 9:50 am
rb85 wrote:
Wed Jun 19, 2019 7:08 pm
https://www.boatsonline.com.au/boats-fo ... -ht/228341

https://www.boatsales.com.au/boats/deta ... 6082/?Cr=0

https://www.boatsales.com.au/boats/deta ... 6295/?Cr=1

https://www.boatsales.com.au/boats/deta ... 0804/?Cr=2

https://www.boatsales.com.au/boats/deta ... 0400/?Cr=3

Bee Humble the first on boatsales is an insane setup the others below need a side dive door I believe not essential but would help for game angling even though I believe be humbles should be on the skippers size. If you can sleep in the cab these are looking good.
They're nice boats, very well finished and bee humble is well decked out. But for me with $200k and a choice of seeing the Savage's at Streaker or elsewhere, the car would be full of fuel and I'd be driving to Cann River and getting Erick Hyland to build me a 263L
Cobby I know the manufacturers and their models to some extent not the builders. Do you have experience in the boat building industry?
Nope. Just tidbits learnt off others. Erick builds Whitepointer boats. The 263L is the old John Haines designed 243L extended with a few other tweaks and built like a brick shizenhousen. Erick also started Edencraft at Eden before selling that too
The 263L looks like a very solid boat.

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Re: 2019 Melbourne Boat Show

Post by cobby » Thu Jun 20, 2019 8:03 pm


Bugatti

Re: 2019 Melbourne Boat Show

Post by Bugatti » Thu Jun 20, 2019 8:40 pm

cobby wrote:
Thu Jun 20, 2019 7:50 pm

Erick builds Whitepointer boats.

Hey, look at that , , , , Erick builds Planes too

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Cheers, Bugatti , , , , I'd like to see Erick make a Car

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Re: 2019 Melbourne Boat Show

Post by cobby » Thu Jun 20, 2019 9:12 pm


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Re: 2019 Melbourne Boat Show

Post by yepi'mon » Thu Jun 20, 2019 9:31 pm

cobby wrote:
Thu Jun 20, 2019 9:12 pm
https://youtu.be/GIQn8pab8Vc
Right song, wrong video.


https://youtu.be/7zzUGrBWEew

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Re: 2019 Melbourne Boat Show

Post by frozenpod » Thu Jun 20, 2019 10:35 pm

Nude up wrote:
Thu Jun 20, 2019 9:40 am
I always liked the look of cruisecraft boats till I saw them at my first boat show and found them lightly built. If you hit the side of the boat with a closed fist then compare the noise and flex of the boat with similar boats the hull flex’s quite a bit.
I think they are solid, well built and well layed out boats. New haines hunters have very thin sides as well to help lower the CG. They have an extra piece of foam in the laminate that makes them sound different but ultimately they are still thin.


In years passed they were also called Cruise Crafts were known as bruise crafts.

The new hulls still appear to be very very similar if not the same as the older models yet if you read todays mags they claim they all ride well.

One of the big things I noticed was how salesmen were pushing stability as a sales point when years ago it was all about the soft ride.

Interesting how times have changed.

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Re: 2019 Melbourne Boat Show

Post by smile0784 » Sat Jun 22, 2019 7:25 pm

cobby wrote:
Thu Jun 20, 2019 7:56 pm
Or my new favourite 263 photo
But seriously it looks cool but who drives like that with 4 guys in the back and full of gear lol

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