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I starting to think years of security theatre by the current government by passing new laws each year that give them greater and greater powers to collect information on people might be backfiring.Andrews wrote: ↑Sat May 02, 2020 3:06 pmI feel that concerns and hesitation towards the COVID-19 app is a genuine response and there should always be questions asked and hesitation regarding any app that can access your location.
I previously worked as a Health Protection & Emergency Management Officer in Barwon South West, Victoria and phone location data can be requested by VicPol or FedPol to the service provider helping aid in a case of emergency or missing persons. Re-tyred has given a great example of when police would request this information.
I believe there are advantages to having a federally maintained pandemic app which provides you information and alerts to an anonymous individual’s infection status and interaction. I think there should be more questions targeted towards the future of the app post-pandemic. The Government’s current statement is that users will be prompted to delete the app and all stored data will be deleted. This to me suggests that the app will remain, unless manually deleted as opposed to the Government withdrawing/removing the app once the pandemic is over. This leaves me with concern about future location access of the app without public awareness. Either way, we should all continue practicing good hygiene and physical distancing app or not.
How do you think you get those "special" ads solely for you when you visit this site. They know what you do, when you do it and where you do it.Nude up wrote: ↑Fri May 01, 2020 10:54 pmGee here’s a thing I don’t do Facebook don’t allow any app to know my location unless I say yes then turn it off. Paranoid maybe but why when talking to my wife does adverts suddenly appear on the subject we have just discussed. And amazing that the government could come up with a killer app so secure in just a short space of time probably made in India like the 737 max flight control fly by wire program gone to the lowest bidder.
There was a recent high court ruling on that raid on Anika Smethurst by the AFP and it was ruled to have been an illegal raid. The 'leak' was about Australian Signals Directorate spying domestically on Aus citizens. The authorities did not want the peasantry to know this.4liters wrote: ↑Sat May 02, 2020 8:30 pmI starting to think years of security theatre by the current government by passing new laws each year that give them greater and greater powers to collect information on people might be backfiring.
Remember when they said that a judge would need to authorise access to your metadata, then the AFP went in anyway and got into some journalists data to try and track down someone in the public service who leaked something embarrassing about the government?
It was an illegal raid but somehow the popo where allowed to keep all the stuff they took. More concerning is that it was illegal on a technicality and if they’d dotted their i’s and crossed their t’s better they’d have gotten away with it.Stumpjumper wrote: ↑Sat May 02, 2020 8:56 pmThere was a recent high court ruling on that raid on Anika Smethurst by the AFP and it was ruled to have been an illegal raid. The 'leak' was about Australian Signals Directorate spying domestically on Aus citizens. The authorities did not want the peasantry to know this.4liters wrote: ↑Sat May 02, 2020 8:30 pmI starting to think years of security theatre by the current government by passing new laws each year that give them greater and greater powers to collect information on people might be backfiring.
Remember when they said that a judge would need to authorise access to your metadata, then the AFP went in anyway and got into some journalists data to try and track down someone in the public service who leaked something embarrassing about the government?
Dont think its meant to be bullet proof, just simply a huge help towards tracking any outbreaks. Its all about reducing the risk, to make it all more manageableSinsemilla wrote: ↑Sat May 02, 2020 8:56 pmI don't like that they are pretty much saying, get the app to get your freedom back.. This doesn't sit well with me.
and i can't see the app working that well. If the virus is as contagious as they say it is, Why is it only logging people you're with for more than 15mins? Someone could get on the train and get off after a stop or two which isn't 15mins and give you the virus..
What if someone runs into the shops to grab something and forgets their phone in the car? What if you leave your bluetooth turned off?
I know people that don't have smart phones so they wouldn't be able to get the app..
There are too many variables for this app to work efficiently.
I get it as well but also, like you said, Once the tech is out of the bag..laneends wrote: ↑Sun May 03, 2020 12:25 pmDont think its meant to be bullet proof, just simply a huge help towards tracking any outbreaks. Its all about reducing the risk, to make it all more manageableSinsemilla wrote: ↑Sat May 02, 2020 8:56 pmI don't like that they are pretty much saying, get the app to get your freedom back.. This doesn't sit well with me.
and i can't see the app working that well. If the virus is as contagious as they say it is, Why is it only logging people you're with for more than 15mins? Someone could get on the train and get off after a stop or two which isn't 15mins and give you the virus..
What if someone runs into the shops to grab something and forgets their phone in the car? What if you leave your bluetooth turned off?
I know people that don't have smart phones so they wouldn't be able to get the app..
There are too many variables for this app to work efficiently.
Appreciate the reasoning for it, but once the technology is out of the bag, would be hard to put it back in.
It could however give people a false sense of security..