Removing restrictions on trout.

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Removing restrictions on trout.

Post by rb85 » Thu Mar 23, 2017 11:31 am

As trout are an introduced species should there be no closed season or bag limits? Should they be declared noxious not to be returned live?

Fish-Cador get your popcorn mate.

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Post by mingle » Thu Mar 23, 2017 12:15 pm

Seems fair enough to me. What's good for carp should be good for all ferals.

Anyway, trout and redfin are too good to eat, so it would make sense to keep them.

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Post by smokin_reels » Thu Mar 23, 2017 2:05 pm

Agreed.
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Post by Broomstick » Thu Mar 23, 2017 2:45 pm

Definitely! I find it so insanely ridiculous that an exotic species is deliberately released into the environment - especially two species that are known to have serious impacts on native fauna. And before anyone asks for 'proof', here are just a few of the many peer-reviewed studies demonstrating the deleterious impact trout can have on natives:

Review of the impact trout have had on the distribution of various Australian native species:
http://www.publish.csiro.au/MF/MF9800061

Impact of rainbow trout on habitat preference in the riffle galaxid:
https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Wi ... 1e04d9.pdf

Review of the impacts trout have had on the native fishes of Australiasia:
http://s3.amazonaws.com/academia.edu.do ... _rainb.pdf

Impact of trout on the spotted brown tree frog:
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/ar ... 0701000210

Review of the impacts of salmonids on native Australian fauna:
http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1 ... 04.9517252

Trout stocking is aimed to please us fisho's, but I don't think the authorities realise that more and more of us would rather see this time and money put into natives.

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Post by smokin_reels » Thu Mar 23, 2017 2:51 pm

Broomstick wrote:Definitely! I find it so insanely ridiculous that an exotic species is deliberately released into the environment - especially two species that are known to have serious impacts on native fauna. And before anyone asks for 'proof', here are just a few of the many peer-reviewed studies demonstrating the deleterious impact trout can have on natives:

Review of the impact trout have had on the distribution of various Australian native species:
http://www.publish.csiro.au/MF/MF9800061

Impact of rainbow trout on habitat preference in the riffle galaxid:
https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Wi ... 1e04d9.pdf

Review of the impacts trout have had on the native fishes of Australiasia:
http://s3.amazonaws.com/academia.edu.do ... _rainb.pdf

Impact of trout on the spotted brown tree frog:
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/ar ... 0701000210

Review of the impacts of salmonids on native Australian fauna:
http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1 ... 04.9517252

Trout stocking is aimed to please us fisho's, but I don't think the authorities realise that more and more of us would rather see this time and money put into natives.

Look at trout stocking in Albert Park Lake for example.
Money gets pumped into it , fish are released.
One hot week in summer , majority of them die. Really do feel bad for the fish!

The Natives that are released there do really really well.

How many of those fingerling golden perch/estuary perch died a premature death in the jaws of a rainbow ? No way to know!


Sometimes, its like the fish management planning is done by a toddler wanting to put everything in his aquarium not realizing that his oscars are gonna eat his guppies. :down:
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Post by ducky » Thu Mar 23, 2017 3:12 pm

I would be a happy man if they stopped trout stocking tomorrow and instead focussed the dollars on native stockings. I enjoy catching trout but I don't think put and take fisheries have a great ROI

What staggers me is the trout fishos that treat them like an endangered species and believe they should be released etc etc. check out crazy trout hunters on Facebook.
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Post by Kadmium » Thu Mar 23, 2017 3:12 pm

It all revolves around the mighty $$

They want anglers to increase by 1 million so really that means they need fish that people can recognise and readily eat. What better then the universal "trout" craze. Just like atlantic salmon it's had a surge in popularity.

If carp tasted great and didn't stink they would he stocking them. I consider them a greater fighting fish then most trout.

I agree. Non native should = noxious
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Re: Removing restrictions on trout.

Post by Fish-cador » Thu Mar 23, 2017 5:39 pm

rb85 wrote:As trout are an introduced species should there be no closed season or bag limits? Should they be declared noxious not to be returned live?

Fish-Cador get your popcorn mate.
I wonder why most of your posts are intended to stir the pot. :down:

Wolly, ban this guy. :rofl:

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Re: Removing restrictions on trout.

Post by Fish-cador » Thu Mar 23, 2017 5:43 pm

Kadmium wrote:
I agree. Non native should = noxious
Start with deporting pauline hanson. She is not native here in australia like the most of us. :rofl:

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Post by Fisho11 » Thu Mar 23, 2017 5:45 pm

Hypothectically if Trout were not stocked and classed as noxious, populations declined, would larger natives take there place? Or more Blackfish and Galaxis? Ive always wondered what was in those smaller creeks pre introduced species.
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