Scores of dead fish, eels wash up after Melbourne factory fire

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Post by bilby » Sat Sep 01, 2018 7:36 am

True, Hornet - but still disappointing that the EPA won't make a statement at least to the effect that the bay has been impacted. I wasn't wanting to start an argument - but am hugely disappointed that government agencies seem to want to minimize the public scandal around events like this.

In my view, If you are going to store industrial quantities of acetone and other flammable / toxic chemicals near a creek that leads directly to Port Phillip Bay, then there needs to be tougher rules around barriers (and even storage) to contain toxic runoff in the event of a fire or other catastrophic failure at the site. But that will never happen if the issue is poorly misunderstood by voters. Going by the articles I've seen, most would be led to believe that this is a localised issue for a few western suburbs fishers who hang out at the warmies. Imagine if the fire had happened in Elsternwick and the pollutant plume had flowed down the Elwood Canal and out towards Brighton - what would the response have looked like then?

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Post by fishnut » Sat Sep 01, 2018 9:53 am

Very true bilby

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Post by mingle » Sat Sep 01, 2018 11:56 am

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It's a grebe... :-(

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Post by 4liters » Sat Sep 01, 2018 2:37 pm

bilby wrote:True, Hornet - but still disappointing that the EPA won't make a statement at least to the effect that the bay has been impacted. I wasn't wanting to start an argument - but am hugely disappointed that government agencies seem to want to minimize the public scandal around events like this.

In my view, If you are going to store industrial quantities of acetone and other flammable / toxic chemicals near a creek that leads directly to Port Phillip Bay, then there needs to be tougher rules around barriers (and even storage) to contain toxic runoff in the event of a fire or other catastrophic failure at the site. But that will never happen if the issue is poorly misunderstood by voters. Going by the articles I've seen, most would be led to believe that this is a localised issue for a few western suburbs fishers who hang out at the warmies. Imagine if the fire had happened in Elsternwick and the pollutant plume had flowed down the Elwood Canal and out towards Brighton - what would the response have looked like then?
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Re: Scores of dead fish, eels wash up after Melbourne factory fire

Post by jewel90 » Sat Sep 01, 2018 3:29 pm

I am done with summer fishing

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Post by hornet » Sat Sep 01, 2018 3:46 pm

bilby wrote:True, Hornet - but still disappointing that the EPA won't make a statement at least to the effect that the bay has been impacted. I wasn't wanting to start an argument - but am hugely disappointed that government agencies seem to want to minimize the public scandal around events like this.

In my view, If you are going to store industrial quantities of acetone and other flammable / toxic chemicals near a creek that leads directly to Port Phillip Bay, then there needs to be tougher rules around barriers (and even storage) to contain toxic runoff in the event of a fire or other catastrophic failure at the site. But that will never happen if the issue is poorly misunderstood by voters. Going by the articles I've seen, most would be led to believe that this is a localised issue for a few western suburbs fishers who hang out at the warmies. Imagine if the fire had happened in Elsternwick and the pollutant plume had flowed down the Elwood Canal and out towards Brighton - what would the response have looked like then?
I agree bilby, every creek and outlet that drains into PPB should have traps or diverters to holding tanks or at the very least purpose built dams to hold chemical run off, it's disgusting there is nothing in place for such a catastrophe like this fire and the consequent after math, why does something bad need to happen before something is done ? In this case nothing has been planned for future, and no one is accountable.
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Re: Scores of dead fish, eels wash up after Melbourne factory fire

Post by Queasy » Sat Sep 01, 2018 8:20 pm

bilby wrote: Imagine if the fire had happened in Elsternwick and the pollutant plume had flowed down the Elwood Canal and out towards Brighton - what would the response have looked like then?
Latest I read suggested the contamination could extend to Brighton Beach anyways.
Personally I'll keep my local boat fishing to WP. Never trusted PPB much after they dredged up highly toxic Yarra sediments and dumped them in the middle of the bay some 10 yrs ago, then sprinkled some sand on top and called it world's best practice.

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Post by IFISHALOT » Sat Sep 01, 2018 10:13 pm

Certainly the hoardes that are fishing the Warmies for the Tailor should be very careful with them over the next few weeks
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Post by smile0784 » Sun Sep 02, 2018 12:55 pm

I heard on the news that some fisherman are atill fishing there

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Re: Scores of dead fish, eels wash up after Melbourne factory fire

Post by Lightningx » Sun Sep 02, 2018 12:57 pm

Well in that case, I hope it’s just catch and release...

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