Food for thought

[colnick]

Interesting numbers for commercial fish tonnage (where did they come from?) Need to break them down a bit get a better handle on them. Like fin fish, crustaceans, others, individual species, farmed fish proportion, origin of catch - are all SA processed tuna caught in SA waters for example - and so on.

[frozenpod]

All available at the link below.

http://www.agriculture.gov.au/abares

[Bugatti]

Out of interest total commercial fisheries production

VIC 7,992 tonnes.
SA 70,966 tonnes.

SA claim to have the best managed fisheries in Australia and are sustainably harvesting almost 10 times what VIC is.

Surely there is room for VIC to product a lot more than we currently are.

If anyone said in South Australia, "SA claim to have the best managed fisheries in Australia and are sustainably harvesting" , , , , we would say "what ever you are on, we want a kilo". Don't believe the propaganda, no disrespect, but it is bad here. There are some (only some) specie that are doing ok but most are fairing badly. If you listen to our State Government & Commercial interests AND the reports that they have funded, there are fish jumping on our plates.

70,966 tonnes , , , , so that's where all of SA's fish are, that explains a lot.

Keeping in mind, the financial benefit of this resource, which is Legislated in SA as a "community resource", actually goes to the pockets of only a comparative few.

We are still scratching our heads as to why the recreational fisherman in SA are being detriment-ed, even though we pump a lot of money into the state's economy , , , , oh, that's right, it's not in the pockets of the selected few.

Guys, don't give your fish away , , , , fight for every single fish , , , , because 1 turns to 2 turns to 30 turns to 400 turns to 5,000 turns to etc etc then to annihilation.

Regards, Bugatti

[cobby]

How much of the commercial 70k+ tonnes is Pilchards and Tuna? I know the state is in most years the largest supplier of Pilchards, and well everyone knows Lincoln's Tuna industry history

[colnick]

The Abare report is really interesting. The disproportionately small tonnages from NSW and Victoria and the large volumes from SA and WA are striking. Unfortunately, without any more detailed breakdown by seafood type - fin fish, shellfish, crustaceans etc - further broken down into wild caught and farmed groups, it is hard to get a real handle on what is contributing most to the differences.
Interesting all the same. Thanks frozenpod.

Cheers, Col.

[frozenpod]

How much of the commercial 70k+ tonnes is Pilchards and Tuna? I know the state is in most years the largest supplier of Pilchards, and well everyone knows Lincoln's Tuna industry history

SBT has a quota of 6125 tonnes for 2018, 2017 8,100 tonnes were caught. Not sure on pilchards.

[frozenpod]

The Abare report is really interesting. The disproportionately small tonnages from NSW and Victoria and the large volumes from SA and WA are striking. Unfortunately, without any more detailed breakdown by seafood type - fin fish, shellfish, crustaceans etc - further broken down into wild caught and farmed groups, it is hard to get a real handle on what is contributing most to the differences.
Interesting all the same. Thanks frozenpod.

Cheers, Col.

There is a fair amount of specific data available for different types.

[frozenpod]

If anyone said in South Australia, "SA claim to have the best managed fisheries in Australia and are sustainably harvesting" , , , , we would say "what ever you are on, we want a kilo". Don't believe the propaganda, no disrespect, but it is bad here. There are some (only some) specie that are doing ok but most are fairing badly. If you listen to our State Government & Commercial interests AND the reports that they have funded, there are fish jumping on our plates.

Do you have any specifics, I haven't fished SA so no idea other than I hear it is great fishing for squid, snapper, KGW blue swimmers ect.

[Bugatti]

If anyone said in South Australia, "SA claim to have the best managed fisheries in Australia and are sustainably harvesting" , , , , we would say "what ever you are on, we want a kilo". Don't believe the propaganda, no disrespect, but it is bad here. There are some (only some) specie that are doing ok but most are fairing badly. If you listen to our State Government & Commercial interests AND the reports that they have funded, there are fish jumping on our plates.

Do you have any specifics, I haven't fished SA so no idea other than I hear it is great fishing for squid, snapper, KGW blue swimmers ect.

I use to keep up with it up until 2 years ago, so current specifics , , , , a bit but they are just all numbers , , , , fancy numbers on a paper can make any argument look great.

Our Snapper Fishery has been getting tighter restrictions year after year. This year, the restrictions are unprecedented.

KG have had tighter and tighter restrictions too, and same the last few years have seen tighter and tighter restrictions too.

You can still catch Snaps & KG but it is harder and fewer.

The Squid and Crabs are ok. Squid because it's a labor intensive effort even for pros, so hard for them to kill it PLUS they only live for 18 months and rebound well. Crabs are only just becoming decent in numbers (not great) the last two years. Gar, fair. But we had a complete gulf closure on Gar at one point, that's how bad it got.

But guys, your commercial tonnage is 7,000ish ours is 70,000 tonnage. You guys have triple our population, also going for a million rec anglers, we are barely over a million in our population. Tuna say 7,000 tonnes, same for crabs lets say, and for prawns, and cray. That's 21,000 tonnes lets say , , , , heck lets make it an even 30,000 tonnes. That leaves 40,000 tonnes on fish that you guys have and only pluck 7,000 tonnes. Who thinks that doesn't make an impact.

Our Rec rules for the same species that you have, are tighter. We have to catch bigger fish in all species (Snaps in Vic are 28cm where ours have to be 38cm). The only , , , , only exception is squid, we can keep 15)


Guys are selling their boats here, some guys don't go fishing anymore , , , , tell them that things are great here.

The best thing they have done in screwing us, is convincing everyone else that they aren't screwing us and that all is fine & dandy.

Numbers, reports, studies, etc etc , , , , we don't care what they say , , , , they don't tell the real story.

Heck, we write Santa's name a lot every year , , , , still doesn't mean he exists. (oups sorry kiddies)

[colnick]

The Abare report is really interesting. The disproportionately small tonnages from NSW and Victoria and the large volumes from SA and WA are striking. Unfortunately, without any more detailed breakdown by seafood type - fin fish, shellfish, crustaceans etc - further broken down into wild caught and farmed groups, it is hard to get a real handle on what is contributing most to the differences.
Interesting all the same. Thanks frozenpod.

Cheers, Col.

There is a fair amount of specific data available for different types.

Thanks again mate. Under "Australian Fisheries and Aquaculture Statistics" I clicked on "Production" and this gave me a broad summary by States broken down into Wild Catch and Aquaculture, but no species or type separation. I then clicked on "Profiles of Australian Fisheries" which did provide a lot of detail about fishing methods, boat numbers, licence numbers etc for species/categories. This helped paint a picture but unfortunately, again no tonnages.
Am I missing something?
Cheers, Col.